In 1998, the British medical journal The Lancet published a study that, indirectly, led to the first outbreak of measles in the British Isles in decades. How could one study in a journal that’s mostly read by scientists and doctors have such a far-ranging impact? The study argued that autism symptoms could be explained by the use of the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine.
Since then, an entire movement of parents and activists sprung up — including, most notably, Jenny McCarthy — who were convinced that the cause of their children’s autism were nefarious pharmaceutical companies who were hiding the truth so that they could sell more vaccines. In 2005, activist and lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. published a piece in Rolling Stone alleging that there was a conspiracy of pharmaceutical companies and the U.S. government to repress evidence of the vaccine-autism connection.
This past week, however, The Lancet retracted the study. Although the scientific community had rejected the study’s conclusions for years, The Lancet was finally forced to formally retract the study when Britain’s medical regulator, the General Medical Council, sanctioned the lead researcher behind the study, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, for not disclosing payments he got from lawyers representing parents whose kids had received the vaccines and for conducting unnecessary, unhealthful tests on children.
The study, which was based on tests done on all of 12 children and were followed up by a statement by Dr. Wakefield recommending that parents not get the vaccine, caused a plummet in vaccinations in the UK, well past the 95% threshold needed for so-called “herd immunity.” In England, vaccination rates for measles, mumps, and rubella cratered in 2004 when only 80% of children were vaccinated. Subsequently, there were 1,000 cases of measles in the U.K. Measles, of course, was previously thought to have been eliminated in the modern world. There were even more cases of mumps: in 2004, there were more than 16,000 reported mumps cases in England and Wales, a fourfold increase over the previous year. In 2008, “Fourteen years after the local transmission of measles was halted in the United Kingdom,” there was a measles epidemic.
The irony is that in the developing world, parents and kids would love to have access to a measles vaccine. In 2008, some 164,000 died of the disease despite a vaccine being available; 95% of those deaths were in poor countries where there isn’t the medical infrastructure to distribute the vaccine. Unfounded concerns over the MMR vaccine seem to be a first-world luxury.
The populist movement against vaccines, and more specifically, the totally bogus claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism, is not just another example of a great number of people misunderstanding science — it’s a real movement that has real consequences for the kids whose rights to health care are being violated by their sadly misinformed parents. The vaccine delusion has even seeped into politics. In 2002, Indiana Republican Dan Burton took up the cause, saying that “My only grandson became autistic right before my eyes — shortly after receiving his federally recommended and state-mandated vaccines.” But obscure Indiana congressmen aren’t the most prominent leaders of this movement: celebrities are.
Jenny McCarthy, who became famous posing for Playboy, has directly blamed vaccines for causing her son, who was otherwise developing normally, to develop symptoms connected with autism. Since then she has started a foundation (which supports Dr. Wakefield) and has become an advocate for untraditional treatments for autism such as chelation therapy. Chelation therapy is in widespread use among alternative medicine practioners and removes heavy metals — like mercury — from the body. There is, not surprisingly, no scientific evidence that chelation therapy does anything to mitigate the symptoms of autism.
McCarthy’s situation, minus the relentless and reckless self-promotion, is a perfectly representative example of why the vaccine-autism connection has such a powerful grip on so many. The symptoms of autism often first manifest themselves as missed developmental landmarks, such as not being able to speak. Parents often describe, or retrospectively “remember,” a radical shift in their child’s behavior. They go from functioning, happy and normal to distant, sick and alien.
That some parents become aware of their children’s autism at around two years, as in the case of McCarthy, means that they are more likely to attribute their child’s condition to the MMR vaccine, which is often given to children at 15 months. Up until then, their child appears to be “normal,” and then their expectations are totally upended and they look for explanations. And since many people just see vaccines as something they need to get their children without any understanding of why they’re doing so, it is easy for them to scapegoat the vaccine for such a dramatic apparent change in their child. Or, as McCarthy puts it, after her son was given the MMR shot, “soon thereafter — boom — the soul’s gone from his eyes.”
The widespread mistrust of vaccine has obvious victims in those children who get mumps or measles unnecessarily. But it’s also bad for autism research and advocacy. For one, the attention that goes into quack notions like the autism-vaccine connection and quack treatments like chelation therapy could go into research looking into genetic causes of autism and behavioral therapies. There is also an entire movement — the neurodiversity movement — that doesn’t see autism and related autism-spectrum disorders like Asperger Syndrome as diseases but instead as alternate brain wirings that should be respected and accommodated. To neurodiversity advocates, the autism-vaccine story is both wrong and offensive because it implies “that their condition is a side effect of poisoning.”
While The Lancet’s retraction of its original study will probably do very little to convince those who are blaming vaccines for their children’s autism, it is a step in the right direction. Maybe now people can have an appreciation of the good that vaccines have done and accept that a great change in the expectations for their children is not the fault of any conspiracy or great malfeasance, but like so many other of life’s disruptions, autism is something that just happens.

Show me a documented case where any child was afflicted with Mumps, Measles and Rubella at the same time under normal daily living conditions. A little common sense used would tell you that giving the vaccines one a time and separated would have much less chance of overloading a developing immune system. But now they want to give 5 and sometimes more vaccines all at once. This a totally impossible situation for children to contract in a normal existence.
Please use some COMMON SENSE.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Yeah,right. What a fraud. Who is paying these guys to cover up the connection of mercury in vaccines to autism as well as other conditions. Could it be big Pharma? Why yes...yes it could be. Face the obvious. Mercury is a neurotoxin and it is the last thing you want injected into your veins. Don't believe thier BS. Big Pharma has plans to sell Billions of dollars worth of vaccines to the ignorant public and they cannot afford to have you know the truth about them.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Thank you for the entertaining read. Have a good one!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Let's do a study on that!!!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
You have the temerity to support the undeniable scientific fact that there is no evidence to tie MMR vaccines to autism?
Look out. Here come the crazies.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Aside, having stayed in a country that is still developing I would certainly guarantee that if they had access to these vaccines that these parents are against, they wouldn't hesitate to get them.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Quote from one of the abstracts: "There was no difference in age at diagnosis between the cases vaccinated before or after 18 months of age and those never vaccinated. There was no temporal association between onset of autism within 1 or 2 years after vaccination with MMR"
Correlation of age at diagnosis and age of normal vaccination does not equate causation! There have also been video studies done of children at 4-12 months of age, where symptoms of autism were identified BEFORE children were ever given the vaccine.
Your experience has NOT been verified in millions of scientific trials, so either you're experiencing a serious case of confirmation bias or you're the only person I've ever heard seriously equate their child's vaccination to a sudden-onset case of verbal regression. Congrats, you're an outlier in the statistical field. Don't push your misdirected anger onto my clients. The autistic kids I work with EVERY DAY are much better off being vaccinated against sicknesses since they can barely grasp the idea of washing their hands after using the bathroom, let alone keeping hands away from face and other "basic" precautions against getting sick.
It's a parent's choice whether to stagger the vaccines, put them on a delayed schedule or just follow the doctor's regular practice, but for the sake of your child and of everyone else's children (herd immunity only works to protect the unprotected when most of us have had the vaccine!), don't deny your child a vaccination that could save their life, especially based on such faulty information!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
It's difficult when you realize that your child has autism, but to believe the words of Playboy centerfolds over those that have doctorates who study these genetic disorders every day is ridiculous, and is a misdirected energy that could be put into full force towards finding ways to help their children integrate with their surroundings.
Autism, like Down's is likely a genetic disorder, and as such there will probably never be a "cure" no more than there is a cure for mental retardation, or a sixth toe.
By rejecting scientific facts and ignoring 100 years of health research, the rejectionist movement is going to cause us all to get the black plague again. Those of you who argue that vaccines are "big pharma" at it again, are obviously not old enough to have seen what polio did to our brothers and sisters in the 40's and 50's.
It's very sad to see some clinging to unfounded claims, witchdoctor spells and pure rejection of reality. Ask Salem how the trials went.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
The MMR vaccine isn't administered in Japan, and yet studies indicate a more common occurrence of autism in Japan than in other countries.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this. It was everything that needed to be said, explained clearly and concisely. Absolutely fantastic article.
It speaks for itself, as much as any one piece of writing can without having to argue with every individual nutjob.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
And why do parents of vaccinated kids complain that the unvaccinated kids are a threat to them? If they really believe that vaccines work, they have nothing to fear, don't they?ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Balance people. If you take your children to a doctor regularly, keep them out of "herd" areas and want to delay vaccination that should be your right, and responsibility to ensure they don't come in contact with things that could endanger them. You can't have it both ways. Overall expect there will be bumps in the road of medical progression and that sadly it might be your child that is one that creates the pivot of change if something goes wrong. Either way.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I don't disagree, but for particularly demonized vaccines, waiting could increase the level of overall societal protection by avoiding the apparent correlation that feeds the opponents. You would be simultaneously increasing the risk from the disease while decreasing the potential to contract it -- a trade-off that wouldn't be worthwhile in many cases, but should be considered if the situation threatens to become dire.
Any information that violates people's "COMMON SENSE!!!" will be hard to ingrain. It might not be worth fighting that fight.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Keep fighting parents, your CHILD will be the one thanking you for not giving up!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
There have been an abundance of excellent studies showing no relationship of vaccines to autism. To keep going would be a waste of valuable resources that could be used for other studies, including on autism.
And there's no good reason for anyone to believe that a baby's immune system can't handle the current vaccination schedule, and more. From the moment a baby is born, his/her immune system is bombarded with foreign substances that activate the immune system. Most vaccines contain less than a hundred antigens, some only just one, and they are weakened or inactivated; while just ONE sneeze or cough projects thousands of droplets of saliva with MILLIONS of live viruses and bacteria, landing on everything in its path, including on your baby.
If you want to attack "big pharma," you can start with Wakefield. He had secretly applied for a patent for his own measles single vaccine before doing his bogus study, and then used his bogus study to try to make people believe that a single measles vaccine is safer. Want to attack western medicine and doctors? Well, what do you think Wakefield was?! He is a gastroenterologist who did invasive colonoscopies and lumbar punctures on little children who didn't need it.
The Lancet admitted years ago that the study was "fatally flawed" after investigative journalist Brian Deer showed them the evidence. I guess they didn't want to formally announce their retraction until after the GMC made their 2.5 year long decision. Most of the other researchers involved in the bogus study distanced themselves from Wakefield's suggestion of an MMR-autism connection years ago. Read Brian Deer's blog if you want to know all about Wakefield.
Chelation for autism? It's for the birds; ducks, in particular - QUACK! Look it up yourself. It's risky; it has killed children; it's invasive; it's unnecessary; it's scientifically unsupported and FDA unapproved except for removing metals in overdose victims (and not for the "trace" amounts that are found in some vaccines).ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I would put the blame closer to our modern way of living and the Amish and Menonites more pristine and primitive way of living.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Both my kids had whopping cough, chicken pox and are healthier for it. Research the diseases before you research the vaccines. Generally, the disease can be easily treated with excellent food, hygiene, sleep, and TLC.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
1) Certainly vaccines save lives and the also can kill. That's why the gov't formed the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, to give people money for children are injured or died from vaccines.
2) How can the medical profession justify a 7 in 1 vaccine, and say that the stronger reactions mean more resistance but don't cause anymore harm.
3) And the final problem is one of a lay people who are looking for an answer and a medical profession who can't admit that they MIGHT be wrong. Look at the news, a few days ago they said that SOME brain dead people might actually have consciousness. So MAYBE we shold let parents decide if their children should have vaccines.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Wow. So autism is nothing more than parents' misguided expectations. You are suggesting that autism happens to the parents, not their children.
While I would agree that McCarthy might not be the most convincing of spokesperson, you are playing right opposite of her in the same measure. She did not become popular for posing for Playboy, as you attempt to discredit her suggests. I bet most people that have heard of her did not know that - I certainly didn't, or care. Its clear that your only intention with this article was to be controversial and self-promoting, so in that respect, job well done.
There have been numerous - maybe not enough - court cases that have demonstrated the ill effect of MMR on children predisposed to autism. I can assure you that many of these kids stop talking, looking straight to your eyes, interacting with others and struggle to communicate even the most basic needs. This coincides, not with parents expectations, as you suggest, but with the application of vaccines. Perhaps its nothing more than coincidence and children were would have started showing symptoms regardless, but it surely is suspicious.
In my opinion, most of the issue stem from the loss of communication skills. There seems to be agreement about how certain part of the brain becomes disconnected. Have you noticed how famous and rich people's children all are "cured" after 40 hours a week intensive, one on one, speech and language therapy? They are the only ones that can afford such therapies because insurance won't cover it for the rest of us. These intense therapies force the brain to concentrate and make alternate connections which in turn connect the rest. Most privilege kids recover within a year. Think of this fact when you decide to oppose health care reform.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
VACCINES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH AUTISM. Next just blame the CIA for creating AIDS.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Cancer "just happens" too. It, like autism has a cause, as do all things. Like cancer, there is an environmental component to autism, thus the increases over time (not all due to increased monitoring). Just because salt does not seen to cause cancer, we don't stop looking for the cause.
Lets get real here.
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They do have something to fear. While vaccines greatly reduce (by a factor of 35) individual risk of the targeted disease and its transmission, they do NOT eliminate it. Taking measles as an example, the percentage of vaccinated people who achieve immunity has been measured in populations throughout the world, with results varying from 85% in developing countries (perhaps because of suboptimal storage) to 95% and even 99% in the developed world. That's good enough to achieve "herd immunity" if enough people are vaccinated. But if herd immunity isn't achieved, the community is vulnerable to an outbreak. If there's an outbreak, while the unvaccinated are at highest risk, 1-15% of the vaccinated will also be vulnerable.
In fact, you are generally safer being the lone unvaccinated person in a community where everyone else is vaccinated than you are being a fully vaccinated person in a community of mostly unvaccinated people. That may seem counter-intuitive, but that's the way it works.
The public health goal is properly herd immunity, not individual immunity.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
To think that there are still to this day people calling others "Nazis" just because they explain why it is that vaccines save lives.
It's amazing how all the statistics in the world aren't able to dissuade people who heard about someone's uncle's friend who's kid was vaccinated and then developed autism. Why aren't statistics and science taught better in schools? How has the western world failed so miserably in eduction that there is now a large proportion of the population who actively distrust the very notion of "evidence-based research?"ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
As someone with Aspergers Syndrome quite present in my family (possibly even myself as a young man), and two friends with severely autistic children, I do feel the pain of those who have observed their children's switch to autistic behaviour shortly after an MMR vaccination. I think that is important for us to understand how statistics works. The research on this has not ruled out that there may be some subtle effect related to MMR that affects a tiny number of children. What is has ruled out is that is there any observable statistical increase in the onset of autism related to MMR vaccination, so that from a public health policy it is reasonable to continue administering and encouraging the use of the vaccine. If people are offended by my use of the word "a tiny number", please recall that when something impacts 3 million people in the USA, that is just 1% of the population. The number of cases of autism onset post-MMR that are claimed by even the most passionate believers in the link between the vaccine and the condition is very, very, very much smaller than that. There isn't a contradiction between saying that there is no statistical increase in autism in children who received the MMR vaccine and the possibility that some children were indeed impacted by it. However, even there (as the article notes), we know so little about autism, and it has such a complex manifestation, that its very hard to rule out the possibility that parents are seeing correlation and not causation. Researchers have tried to do this (as hard as it is) and the evidence to date suggests that there is no causative mechanism.
Finally, to the person who asked why, if something works to remove overdoses of heavy metals it can't work for tiny amounts ... you need to learn more biology to understand this. I know that common sense might make you think that this seems obvious, but our bodies, like the world at large, are only vaguely understandable if you insist that everything must meet your common sense view of the world.
Thanks to the author for a great article, although its true that the focus on Mccarthy's playboy background is a little overdone and a little mis-used.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
and, 2) "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."; Benjamin DisraeliReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Old wine, new bottles.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
The "flaws" in the Lancet article are not methodological, they are moral judgments about the authors' motivation. Thus, if Jack the Ripper did a scientific paper, valid or not, they would withdraw its publication as well.
Attack the messenger!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
While it may be true that an outbreak of measles resulted from parents distrust of Timerosal-preserved vaccines, it could've been mitigated by shipping vaccines in single-use dosage containers instead of in bulk.
This story's author infers a measles outbreak is indirectly linked to some sort of Thimerosal hysteria, but the vaccine industry had a Thimerosal-free solution in hand the entire time but refused to implement it.
More to the point, the medical community has succumbed to being glorified prescription and vaccine prescribers for the drug manufacturers; it should be no surprise that parents' suspicion of the major drug companies was transferred to their family doctors. For this reason alone, family doctors probably shares some culpability in this as well, if only in aggregate.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Matt's still a student and we all make mistakes, but that's no reason to jump on him like many of you have been doing. He's not getting paid money to write this article and he is writing an opinion piece. It's not like he's trying to get this published in the New Yorker or something. Also, keep in mind that his editor might have given him this topic and asked him to write about it, and that his editor might have made some changes to what he initially wrote. In fact, one of my friends once wrote an feature article that her editor changed the title of, and in the process misconstrued the message she was trying convey to the readers. But my friend had no power over the final title. That was her editor's call. Articles on sites like these are never a one person production.
And again, we're still students- we're still learning!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Second, the rise in apparent occurrence of Autism may be due to the inclusion of other developmental delay syndromes into the spectrum of autism. Something that may have been classified as a 'learning disability' a few years ago may now be lumped under the tag of Autism. There is a very wide sliding scale applied to Autism that goes all the way from being functional in society to being totally closed off and unresponsive.
Third, it has always been a given that there will be reactions among the population to any given drug. Whether that population is horses, cows or people, some individuals will have a bad reaction.
Fourth, medical science is not infallible. It's only been about 65 years since the development of penicillin. In those 60 years we've come a long way. A really long way. But there is still much room for improvement and scientific understanding.
I'm not dissing any parent of an autistic child. A couple of my friends have autistic children and I envy them their capacity for love and patience. They are worried however that not enough is being done for the sufferers of Autism after they reach their 18th birthday. These parents wonder what will happen when their children are no longer children and fall out of the child-oriented care and tutoring systems, what will happen as these become adult dependents in the eyes of the tax systems, and what will happen to the children when they themselves are gone. There is far more to be done in the field of autism study than pointing fingers.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
When or if that study does not change the output of autism cases, the goal post will move and proponents will say that you still gave them part of the vaccine, and whatever part was common is causing it. Sacred cow or scapegoat, vaccines are a public health boon and even if they caused autism it would be a serious moral dilemma that outrage and finger pointing will not help.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm096228.htm#intro
"Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine (see Table 1). A preservative-free version of the inactivated influenza vaccine (contains trace amounts of thimerosal) is available in limited supply at this time for use in infants, children and pregnant women. Some vaccines such as Td, which is indicated for older children (? 7 years of age) and adults, are also now available in formulations that are free of thimerosal or contain only trace amounts. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal contain 1 microgram or less of mercury per dose." -FDA WebsiteReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
"Conducted in 1999, this review found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions (Ball et al. 2001)... At the time of this review in 1999, the maximum cumulative exposure to mercury from vaccines in the recommended childhood immunization schedule was within acceptable limits for the methylmercury exposure guidelines set by FDA, ATSDR, and WHO. However, depending on the vaccine formulations used and the weight of the infant, some infants could have been exposed to cumulative levels of mercury during the first six months of life that exceeded EPA recommended guidelines for safe intake of methylmercury...As a precautionary measure, the Public Health Service (including the FDA, National Institutes of Health (NIH), Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) and the American Academy of Pediatrics issued two Joint Statements, urging vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal in vaccines as soon as possible (CDC 1999) and (CDC 2000)."ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
It is the dishonesty of the medical community that is most troublesome. Yes measles, mumps and all those communicable diseases are far more dangerous statistically that the vaccines that prevent them, but the medical community continually discounts any vaccine related complications.
Guillain-Barre syndrome is the classic example. Hours after getting a vaccination, a person suddenly develops this syndrome, and is told "they would have developed it anyway even without the vaccine", how convenient. You can find dozens of reported cases like this all over the world, and God knows how many more go unreported to the media. This is the type of dishonesty displayed by the medical community that keeps people nervous and unwilling to trust, and rightfully so.
Present all the information and let people make an educated choice.
“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” ~Thomas JeffersonReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Pay attention. Be alert. And trust your instincts. Don't be manipulated by ever refuted statistics and jargon.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Wanted to add that titer testing is accepted by all schools as "vaccinated".ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
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Pay attention. Be alert. And trust your instincts. Don’t be manipulated by ever refuted statistics and jargon." - ElizabethReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I have 3 children. All were vaccinated on schedule. My youngest was born in 2005 and has symptoms common to autism (specifically he has receptive/expressive communication disorder) and falls on the spectrum. My concern is with how to help him function in society.
We need to move on and continue to seek the source of the world wide increase in autism. As Tony mentioned part of the increase is due to the more inclusive diagnosis. Unfortunately I do not have the study at hand, but there has been work to determine if the increase is only due to the umbrella diagnosis and it was found that there was a real increase when the umbrella is narrowed to a more traditional view of autism. We've already changed the vaccinations to lower mercury exposure and studies have found that there is not a causal relalionship between vaccines and autism, so we must continue to look elsewhere.
I feel a great deal of compassion for other parents dealing with autism, but laying blame does not help your child. I know from experience. Focus on what you can do for your child and fight to uncover the real causes of autism (it's likely rooted in some combination of genetics and the environment). Fight for improved diagnosis and treatments to improve functioning. Continuing to wage a useless battle against vaccinations helps no one.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
According to the article, term "autism" wasn't even used until 1938, and it wasn't defined as its own syndrome or disorder until the 1960s. There could not be documented cases of Autism until we established its modern definition. However, there are documented descriptions of what we now recognize as symptoms of autism going back far before we ever recognized it as a disorder.
It is not that children have only recently developed the disorder, it is that we made it possible to diagnose it as a disorder, resulting in a large number of documented cases occuring suddenly in the last 50 years.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Autoimmune diseases and vaccinations. Vial T, Descotes J.
or read:
Journal of Autoimmun. 1996 Dec;9(6):699-703.
Vaccine-induced autoimmunity. Cohen AD, Shoenfeld Y.
The Lancet provides a great background article: http://image.thelancet.com/extras/02art9340web.pdf
While there may be some link between vaccinations and autoimmune disorders, my previous post referred only to children born with improperly functioning immune systems that do not allow them to benefit from vaccination.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I first want to say that I feel, as I’m certain many people do, that the pharmaceutical industry has provided us with great advances in medicine and most doctors are dedicated to their cause and completely ethical in their practice of medicine. I also feel that physicians have a right to earn a living from their profession, especially considering the importance of their work, years of study and great expense they incur before they become licensed to practice.
It is curious that an article written by a doctor 12 years ago that merely suggested a possible link between the MMR vaccine and digestive tract problems in children would cause such alarm in the pharmaceutical industry and medical fields today. From any factual information that I can find, Dr. Wakefield did not say there was a link between vaccines and Autism, he simply suggested that further studies be done, and in the interest of precaution recommended considering single vaccines, and that they be spread out over time instead of multiple vaccines at one time, until his recommendation for scientific studies could be undertaken and reviewed. This seems to be sound advice, especially in this age of misleading advertising that touts new miracle drugs, many having dangerous side effects.
I realize that in all likelihood, most reporters of medical news designed for general consumption are not science or medical experts themselves, but I find it hard to imagine reporting on a medical article without reading the article in question, which is apparently happening in the Wakefield case. Here are two very telling quotes from Dr. Wakefield’s 1998 article on the matter of Autism and any vaccine connection. “We did not prove an association between measles mumps and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described.” “Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to the vaccine.” In light of the facts, perhaps an investigation into the ethics and professionalism of some news reporters in order.
A primary principle of the Hippocratic Oath is "first do no harm", not "first make a profit and remember not to upset the powers that be". And no one wants to hear the phrase, “the cure is worse than the illness”. In the case of Dr. Wakefield, and apparently any other proponent of research into vaccine safety, the appearance of the old tried and true method of publicly attacking, ridiculing and disparaging someone to diminish their credibility and standing in the community while strengthening an opposing position only leads me to believe that his call for scientific research and safety precautions must be threatening to some powerful interests. Statements by "medical experts" who are proponents of vaccines but also may be consultants to the CDC, who are funded by pharmaceutical companies or derive a large portion of their income by administering vaccinations, should be carefully scrutinized. These people may be confronted with interests that conflict with the truth or their income, which in turn may interfere with the concept “first do no harm”.
How did it come to be that a group of doctors and parents simply concerned about the safety of their children could be verbally attacked, demeaned, ridiculed and depicted as hopeless souls grasping at straws? Why is it that calls for scientific research and open honest questions about vaccine safety and Autism are sidetracked into conversations about measles, chicken pox or some other diversion, which is often the case? In this current news event, how can it be that no major news organization has bothered to check the content of the Wakefield article and yet allows false and misleading remarks to be made by his detractors in an uncontested fashion? Has this case been turned into a platform to once again discredit the questioning of vaccine safety and get the pro vaccine word out? In the case of Autism, a documented major medical health crisis that affects 1 in 110 children born in this country, we need independent, unbiased scientific research - research that is not funded by pharmaceutical companies or government agencies. This may be a difficult task as even many large charitable organizations that help fund research are themselves funded in part by some of these special interests. Will anyone be willing to bite the hand that feeds them in order to get to the truth? We need honest studies on the affect of the large amount of vaccines that infants and young children are receiving. If we have the scientific research, the public will embrace the findings. If vaccines are truly proven safe for infants and young children, almost all parents would not hesitate to make use of them. The families dealing with Autism are starved for answers. They realize that they know very little about the possible causes and treatments. They just need answers that science may hold. There have been studies that have shown a genetic link in about 15% of Autism cases. Where are the independent vaccine studies? While there are many variables in Autism cases, by far the most common link families across the country have with each other is that almost all have had vaccinations. Isn’t it logical that this would raise concerns? Is it a mere coincidence that Autism arrives at the same time that multiple vaccinations are being introduced to infants developing bodies? Let’s have definitive studies. Are other environmental factors or epigenetics playing a role? We need research here too. It would that seem that some in the medical community, as well as pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines are suffering from two conditions: They either don’t realize what they don’t know or they know more than they are willing to admit. And what they may know may not be beneficial to their interests. Either condition is not very good.
Obviously, there are thousands of parents choosing not to vaccinate, regardless of the CDC’s recommendations and urging by pediatricians. Just as obviously, there is a lack of trust. This lack of trust seems to be growing in spite of what appears to be a well organized effort promoting vaccines, backed by powerful concerns, with open access to major media outlets. If a so called expert appears on television and says 20 studies have been performed with no evidence of a link between Autism and vaccinations, should we believe it at face value or are we right to question it? What are these studies? Who performed them? Who funded them? Were there conflicts of interest in any of the studies? Were the results colored to show a pre determined and desired result? Were there any studies done on the effect of combinations of vaccinations over a short period of time? Has any study compared vaccinated to unvaccinated children? Are 36 vaccines necessary? Are news reports on this subject colored to achieve a desired effect, perhaps unwittingly in some cases or by way of carefully composed material fed by special interests, and the inability to check facts in a timely fashion? Let’s not be naive about this world. When power, control, politics and profits are challenged, there will be great repercussions.
Whether it is families affected by Autism or any other important issue, people need something concrete to believe in. Journalists can fill that need by safeguarding and reporting the truth. We have lived through many mistakes and misdeeds that were covered up over the years. Political, financial, military, social, environmental issues and many more have all been subject to wrong doing, corruptions and cover ups and many have ultimately been exposed as being wrong, unfair and unjust and usually corrected after exposure. I could see the great movie director of the 1930's and 1940's, Frank Capra, having a field day with this case of a small group of families and doctors fighting the big, powerful multi billion dollar pharmaceutical machine as well as some questionable positions of the CDC and the NIH, simply to find some truth for their cause. Reporting the news accurately is arguably one of the greatest responsibilities and privileges any person or organization can have in this country. Truth in news is our last line of defense in dealing with so much information and so many things that impact our lives, but it cannot be the truth that a special interest wants us to believe. Taken from the book The Elements of Journalism, journalism’s first obligation is to the truth and its first loyalty is to its citizens. Let it be so.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Until you have witnessed a child go from talking, hugging, laughing, engaging and full of life change within 3 weeks after the shots and before your very eyes, stop talking, hugging, laughing and engaging - how can you form an opinion? Are opinions being based from articles and reports that come from the very industry that would loose billions if they are the cause? Are they truly that trustworthy and noble? When the change occurs in the child, it is the most heart-breaking and totally helpless feeling you can imagine. We have before and after video (as do most parents who have experienced this horror) that is undeniable in its link to when they received the vaccines. With the thousands of autism cases out there with this same story, how can this be coincidence? I have NEVER heard of this sequence of events occurring BEFORE they received the shots. Statically, the odds of this being a coincidence are staggering.
Despite the cause, I have witnessed one consistent positive in the families of autistic children though - the parents and siblings of the child through the suffering of condemnation (i.e. in public the stares, judgment, and ridicule of a world that doesn't understand and has little patience for parents that cannot control their child's behavior), have incredible grace and love for others. They are the first to give encouragement and help to the parents of a child throwing a fit. They have given up the fear of not appearing "perfect" and in control to a judging world and replaced it with selflessness and love.
I don't know exactly why this horrific disease is occurring at such a rapid pace, but there is too much evidence for this not to sound major alarms to oversight agencies and would be parents.
I do know that in the meantime, the byproduct is an army of parents whose character, humility and love is forever changed for the better - and I pray this character change is contagious.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Second, I didn't say the article was funded by "Big Pharm." I said "YOUR University." Again, if "it's not a one person production", perhaps that highlights the incredible lack of integrity this piece illustrates. How do we know the editor doesn't have a conflict of interest if "they" are putting their two cents in as well?
We can all go back n' forth a billion times about this issue, and at least we're talking about it. We have traded these "life threatening" diseases of yesterday for the chronic, life-long conditions that plague our children today. There is a connection between vaccines and autism. It may take another decade, but it will be uncovered in time. Our children are sick, time is critical, and there are resources out there for you...seek them out!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I thought you may want to know that it is not only parents and "activists" who are questioning vaccine safety. If you spent sometime doing research you would find there are numerous scientists as well. Here is one example. Attached are public comments made by Geraldine Dawson, Ph.D. Chief Science Officer of Autism Speaks to the National Vaccine Program Office on 1/25/2009. http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/nvac/documents/ASPAPublicCommentsFeb2.pdf
I have included the link if you would like to read in it's entirety but here is an excerpt:
1. “In the past several years, the prevalence of ASD has increased dramatically, underscoring the potential role of environmental factors in its etiology.” 2. “Recent studies point to a key role of the immune system in the biology of ASD, raising questions about the effects of the significant immune challenges associated with vaccinations, particularly when delivered in combination and early in life.” 3. “We believe that the question of whether immunization is associated with an increased risk for ASD is of extremely high priority.” 4. “Still other studies point toward subgroups of children with ASD with genetic vulnerabilities than can amplify the adverse effects of environmental exposures, including vaccinations, on brain development and function” 5. “There is a need to describe the nature and prevalence of vaccine adverse events in children with metabolic disorders and assess risk factors for these events.” 6. “As mentioned in the draft scientific agenda, many key questions have not yet been adequately addressed. Many of the studies to date have relied on data from the Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System (VAERS). While this system has clear strengths such as its broad coverage, it nevertheless has substantial limitations (Ellenberg and Braun, Drug Safety, 2002). Because the system relies on passive self?report, a major limitation is under? reporting such that only a small fraction of adverse events are reported. Furthermore, events that occur weeks following vaccination are less likely to be reported than those that are proximal to the vaccination.”
7. “Many fundamental questions have not been addressed, such as whether the use of combination vaccines confers increased risk for adverse events and whether there are subgroups in the general population that are more vulnerable to serious adverse effects of vaccines, including ASD.” 8. “Research has shown that children with metabolic disorders, including mitochondrial disorders, may experience neurological decline when physiologically challenged. There have been reports of metabolic crisis after receiving vaccinations” 9. “As noted in the draft agenda, preliminary results from a VSD study underway found that children aged 12?23 months who received MMRV vaccine were about 2 times more likely to have febrile seizures during the 7?10 days after vaccination than children who received separate MMR and varicella vaccines at the same visit (CDC MMWR, 2008). In a population?based study, there has been a report of an increased risk for ASD after infantile seizures during the first year of life” 10. “Studies that can address the current questions raised by parents are feasible. Clinical studies of individuals with ASD can address whether certain metabolic conditions associated with ASD are correlated with increased risk for serious adverse effects. Case?control studies and randomized clinical trials can be conducted to address whether there are differences in adverse effects associated with a combination vaccine versus individually administered components” 11. “Fever after vaccination is common and can induce seizures in vulnerable children” 12. “For example, a recent study identified mutation in a sodium channel gene in children who developed encephalopathy after pertussis vaccines, suggesting that genetic factors may influence the risk for neurological deterioration after vaccination” 13. “Children with metabolic diseases are at higher risk of health complications from diseases that are prevented by immunizations” 14. “Such research could have wide?ranging effects on clinical practice/vaccination policy. For example, it could allow pediatricians to identify subgroups of children who may benefit from a different vaccine schedule or for whom careful monitoring of adverse effects is warranted.” 15. “Over the past decade, parental concerns, both in the general population and the autism community, over the possible link between immunization and increased risk for autism spectrum disorders (ASD) have only increased despite concerted and persistent efforts by the medical community to reassure the public about the safety of vaccines.” 16. “It is Autism Speaks’ position that the best way to ensure that parents are confident in the safety of our vaccine program and, at the same time, protect the minority of children who may be at increased risk for serious adverse effects of vaccinations, is to foster collaborative, trusting relationships among the general public, the medical and scientific communities, and the federal government whose mandate it is to conduct research on the safety of vaccines.” 17. “Establishing and maintaining a trusting relationship and providing answers to parents’ questions cannot be achieved by one set of studies addressing one set of questions, but rather it will require an on?going process of scientific discovery as medical science continues to uncover individual differences that predict differential responses to vaccines and other medical interventions. We need to embrace our obligation to address new questions with an open mind, adequate resources, and renewed commitment.”
Mr Zeitlin, This is not an issue of parents vs science but rather parents asking for the science. I find it interesting that you would say autism is something that just happens as if that is the end all and be all. What a sad world it would be if science said that to everything. These are children Mr Zeitlin. Today 1 in 110 children are affected and the vaccine schedule has 36 shots. In 1983 that number was 1 in 10,000 when the schedule had 10 shots. Show me the studies that show the effects of this increase in vaccinations and the studies that show the safety of combining vaccinations at one pediatrician visit. You can't because they do not exist.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I come from a family with some HFA/Asperger's members. My HFA/Asperger's sibling may be able to communicate well, but there are still troubles-- can't really ever get past a preconceived notion of people, buys me clothes for birthday presents but no matter how often I say that I wear a small, I get XL from my sibling (and of course, the t-shirts feature tv-shows or movies my sibling is really into, but which I am not).
I doubt vaccines have anything to do with the HFA/Asperger's in my family. I know my ancestors were not diagnosed, but hearing family stories of my ancestors' quirks and foibles I am sure HFA/Asperger's has been in my family for generations. My sibling and I are were vaccinated before the combined MMR. (And what is this claim you can't get a straight Measles shot? I got one when I was traveling to the third world). My sibling is older, so I am not in an observational position to say that there was ever a sudden change-- frankly, from the stories I've heard of my sibling's infancy and toddlerhood, my sibling has always been this way. Growing up in the 1970s, my sibling was just one of those "odd kids".
Much of the increased diagnosis may come from looser diagnostic criteria, pediatricians paying more attention, the availability of special educational programs under the ADA (Parents of autistic kids, your child is entitled to special services at whatever age your school district begins providing school), and changes in range. My HFA/Asperger's relatives who have a farm are quite happy and functional when they are out there with their horses, but bring them into a city and they are total wrecks. I know that one of my older HFA/Asperger's relatives went to normal school, but a year late-- My grandmother's solution was just to pretend her child was a year younger than he really was (fortunately, he was small of stature).
I am not so sure that privileged kids "recover within a year" as JR said. I grew up on Fifth Ave in NYC and there is a kid in my parents' building with autism and for all the therapy he is still the same. I do know of other privileged kids who have done well with early intervention. But I also wonder if some of the privileged kids who "recover" with intensive therapy have parents who have just totally dropped the ball-- you know the parents who constantly shush their babies and never talk to them, a deeply withdrawn and angry child who has not had parents working to develop his mental and physical skills could seem autistic: uncommunicative, avoids eye contact, and lashes out. In the sense that many privileged kids are just a fashion accessory for their parents, I suspect that many of the privileged kids who "recover" are actually recovering from an infancy and toddlerhood of emotional privation and abandonment (they are well fed and clothed, but barely loved).
I have the deepest sympathy for parents of a child with any disability-- as parents we feel responsible for our children, but when a child has a mental disability you know there will come a day when you are dead and gone and won't be there for your child and you worry about what their life will be like when they have no family to fight for them.
Unfortunately, the focus on vaccines is preventing newer research from moving forward. Amazing things are going on with brain imaging, stimulation with implants or by reversing the magnet on an MEG. Neurology has come a long way in the past fifteen years in understanding and even being able to cure diseases like Epilepsy. It is a shame so much funding and focus has gone to vaccine research when brain science is actually reaching the point where non-invasive MEG scanning will allow neuroscientists to see what goes on in an autistic child's brain that is different from a "normal" child. With this additional feedback, it is likely that intensive therapies can be improved and tailored to each child and that in some cases there may be an opportunity for effective surgical or gamma kinfe intervention as neuroscientists have found with epilepsy. Do not give up hope, do not become hyper-focused on one angle of research, cast a wide net... While it is little consolation to those who suffer today, I am betting that in ten years we will have a cure for at least some forms of autism.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
"The graphs are based on the official death numbers as recorded in the Official Year Books of the Commonwealth of Australia, are taken from Greg Beattie's excellent book "Vaccination: A Parent's Dilemma" and represent the decline in death rates from infectious disease in Australia."
http://www.harvestdream.org/index.php?/archives/431-GRAPHICAL-EVIDENCE-SHOWS-VACCINES-DIDNT-SAVE-US.htmlReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree", "guilty by association", and several other little sayings come to mind when I think about your comment. The connection is still there. The University has received HUGE money from RAND. I noticed you didn't respond to the second half of my comment, which is a really important point that gets lost in all of this. How do we know & how can we rely on good reporting if the article is "influenced" by others, like the editor? I'm sure if you dig deep enough, you'll find that thread somewhere either with the author, the editor, etc..that leads back to an agenda.
The bigger point is in good reporting, truthful reporting that helps people understand the truth, especially when we're talking about the health of children. Why don't you encourage Matt to do a piece on BIG PHARM lobbying! Oh, and make sure that ends up on Google's front health page.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
How is the connection there at all if the university has no part in NBN? RAND funding has nothing to do with anything, and I'm sure that the guy who wrote the article, like me, has never heard of it either.
He's an undergraduate sophomore in Weinberg, for crying out loud! The thread that leads back here is no conspiracy connected to RAND or anything (I doubt Matt has even talked to anyone who knows anything about it; I've certainly never heard anything about where the university gets money from, and I'm a sophomore as well, it's not exactly information that you go seeking out, especially if it's irrelevant to the article at hand).
The agenda is: ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing else. ENTERTAINMENT. Because we are bored college students who want something sensational to read.
Honestly, this article probably wasn't even written with the intention of reaching an adult audience with children- look at the other articles on this site. In fact, most of the people commenting here aren't even students and that's why they're reacting the same way they are. Most students are totally indifferent to the whole article, as is what happens with most articles that are not related to NU in some form or fashion. It's not as entertaining as Gertonberg, the web series, or Carnal Knowledge, a funny sex column that sporadically appears, or even the multimedia presentations that help us figure out fun places to go on the Red Line.
In essence, this isn't the Daily, it's not a place where you should go to find solid, reliable journalistic endeavors. It's a fun little site that has opinion pieces like this one, blogs that cover what happen to the Rock, what happened on Ugly Betty last night, and how to make cute pillowcases for your dull dorm room. If you're looking for a hard-hitting journalistic piece that takes everything into account, then you shouldn't be here. There's no propaganda here, no hidden promotion, just people saying what's on their mind.
And btw, Matt isn't even a Journalism student, he's a Liberal Arts student in Weinberg.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
"Entertainment!" Thank you, you've made my point. There is no truth in anything he's reporting, and the connection should have been at least disclosed...I'm talking about the fact that the University received endowment money & that others had a role in this article. It's the misleading part that frustrates parents. It's a misleading article that's plastered across Google's front health page, it's an article that people place value in, that gets attention as being "credible", that (frankly) should be on the inside of the Weekly World News if it's "entertainment." Sophomore or not, your "fun, little site that has opinion pieces" should be ashamed because children with autism have been dealt yet another blow by uneducated people spewing awful information! Do a better job of presenting the information as "FUN" and then maybe you won't get the reaction from parents that are outraged by this article. Terrible job all the way around! Terrible.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Priya - Thanks. I did not know this was just a "college newspaper" Amazing, the author's logic and use of the FACTS makes him a lot better than 99% of the articles I have read on this subject, all opinion pieces. I am excepting the Daily Guardian (UK) who all but lambasted the study and the doctor when the Lancet report first came out and then did it again this week.
As there is yet 1 study to prove a link to Autism and Vaccines, I am very sorry for people who need to know the why's and how's of what had befallen their child. However, there is no there there. In the next 5 year science will prove that Autism, like all other developmental disorders is linked to genetics. It took over 30 years and millions upon millions to determine where "Down's Syndrome" came from. This is not meant as a knock to Linda who is obviously an upset mother looking for answer. I too hope that an answer is found. That way, kids won't get sick because their parents refuse them vaccines, and that science can provide more understanding of autism once the cause is known.
Kudos is deserved to Matt. I am bookmarking your thread and hope you keep up the great work.
**And for the idiot who posted that there was no such thing as a "genetic epidemic" What is schizophrenia ?? Is not a genetic epidemic Please prove there is an "epidemic", because the only thing sadder than frustrated parents grasping at straws, IS INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING PARENTS WITH BOGUS SCIENCE AND BOGUS CLAIMS AND THE LOWER OF THE SYSTEM FOR WHAT IS CONSIDERED AUTISTIC
JENNY MCCARTHY I MEAN YOU AND THE TRIAL LAWYERS WHO ARE THE ONES LOOKING TO MAKE MONEY OF THE "BIG PHARMA" THAT KEEPS MOST PEOPLE ALIVE AND WELL. THERE IS NO PROOF, NONE, ZIP-ZERO-ZILCH-NADA THAT VACCINES (ANY OR ALL) ARE LINKED TO AUTISM. NONE. I AM SORRY FOR YOUR PAIN, BUT DEAL WITH IT. STOP BLAMING AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CHILD AND ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP THEM. WHAT YOU ARE DOING ON THIS BOARD IS NOT HELPING THEM. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS LINING TRIAL LAWYERS POCKETS IN YOUR DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO VALIDATE SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TRUE AND CANNOT BE PROVEN.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
The only UNEDUCATED PERSON HERE IS YOU, olivia shagsty You are again spouting misinformation. IT CANNOT BE PROVEN BECAUSE THERE IS NO LINK. QUIT FEEDING FALSE HOPE TO PEOPLE WHAT NEXT??? BIPOLAR IS ALSO VACCINE'S FAULT TOO????ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Apparently it made Google's health page or something, though, and that's why people are here complaining about it not being a serious article, they think that just because it made Google it has to be the same quality as something from the New England Journal of Medicine. Have they ever heard of an Op Ed?ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
A public health physician at Johns Hopkins once told me, on the record, "Public health is about protecting the overall population. Sometimes, to achieve that goal, a certain number of individuals must be scarified." Rational from his perspective? Yes. But did your family doctor tell that to your parents when administering childhood vaccines to you and your siblings?
Here's just one of many examples:
Whooping cough is a terrible disease in children three and under, and a serious disease up to about age seven, but not fatal. Are you aware that virtually every undergraduate at Northwestern today (Americans born from the early 1980s-2001) received a mandatory whooping cough vaccine that causes severe neurological impairment lasting up to a year in one out of every 100,000 children, and permanent brain damage in one out of every 250,000 children - to prevent a disease that's awful for a few days, but is never fatal and leaves no lasting harm? How many parents would have agreed to that vaccine if they knew the truth, and were given a choice? The pertussis vaccine was never administered in Britain, Sweden and Japan because those counties considered it too dangerous. But your parents were never told there was any danger at all.
Here's one more:
What's the probability of an American contracting wild paralytic polio? Zero. Not a single case in this country since 1979. But what's the probability of contracting paralytic polio from the Sabin vaccine (the stunned virus vaccine most of us were given, as opposed to the much safer, killed virus Salk vaccine)? One out of 500,000. Doesn't sound like a lot, but we're talking about giving healthy children one of the most horrific diseases ever to strike mankind, and that's seven cases here in Chicago, seven more in Los Angeles, and another sixteen in New York. Compared with zero for unvaccinated people (or people given the more difficult to administer Salk vaccine). Did your parents know that before agreeing to give you the Sabin vaccine? Would they have agreed if your doctor told them?
Every reasonably informed American is aware of the influence big pharma has on regulation and legislation in this country. And the dangers of some vaccines have finally become public (the whooping cough vaccine you were given has at last been replaced). In America today, blanket ridicule of parents who suspect that vaccines have harmed their children is itself suspicious.
Perhaps Mr. Zeitlin is just a journalism student with the condescending self-assurance of youth, but his demeaning and sometimes ad hominem attacks on parents of afflicted children is redolent of the attitude we've all seen too often from pharma flacks and their lackeys in Washington.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
I am concerned about the "others" that also had a role in this article. Do any of them have ties to anyone with an agenda? Again, go back & look at the post. If you're going to write a piece about autism, you're going to be examined from every angle...just like Jenny McCarthy is attacked at a microscopic level. We are parents that have fought for years for our children, in every area, this is just one of the battles (of misinformation) in the war on autism!ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Vaccines prevent diseases from spreading. Even if they did cause autism (which seems unlikely given the data), the dangers posed by the diseases they prevent would outweigh the risk. Refusing vaccines for your child endangers not only the child, but everyone the child comes into contact with since they can now spread the disease in addition to contracting it. It's irresponsible and stupid not to get vaccinated.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
As for my comments on whooping cough, you scold me, "whooping cough lasts several weeks," as though I said otherwise. I know perfectly well how long whooping cough lasts. My friend's sister had it (in Sweden, where the vaccine we took was never given). I correctly wrote that it's "awful for a few days," not that the duration is a few days. In fact, it's a slowly developing condition and young children are often sick for two weeks before their parents even realize they have whooping cough. It's a bacterial infection and antibiotics typically contain the hacking cough, followed by a high-pitched "whoop" on the next inhale, to three to four days. I've seen whooping cough, and the doctors of my friend's sister told her parents that pertussis is absolutely not fatal for a reasonably healthy child in a hospital setting. (In the US, with 45 million uninsured people, there are between 7 and 14 pertussis deaths per year, but that's a health care delivery problem; antibiotics kill the pertussis bacteria just fine.)
You close your screed with the calm, temperate phrase, "It’s irresponsible and stupid not to get vaccinated." I never said people shouldn't get vaccinated. I simply said I'd researched the subject in the past for several articles, and it's a "broader and more complex issue than most partisans on either side are willing to admit."
You just made my point. So thank you, Try Harder.
(But I will proofread it this time, so any typos in this post are on me.)ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Did you get your adult DTP booster? The reason why we still have Pertussis in the community is because of adults & teens. By the way, the fatal side of whooping cough is MOSTLY due to respiratory complications like pneumonia in infants under 6 months of age.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Do you know why polio is nearly non-existant?
Because of the vaccine. Wow, what a coincidence. A precipitous drop in the occurrence of Polio after the vaccine became available. Polio didn't diminish on it's own, vaccination made it happen. If we disrupt herd immunity, it will come back.
To the anti-vaxxers: no matter how many times you shout "there is a link, I just know it, I've seen it! Look at all these anecdotal data!" it doesn't make it true. Reality is not determined by those with the shrillest voices. Anecdotes are not scientific data, and important health decisions should not be made based on such. Conformational bias and the powerful human tendency to see connections were none exist skew beliefs in erroneous directions.
There are no--zero--peer reviewed and accepted studies showing a link between vaccinations and Autism. None. There are numerous studies, peer reviewed and published, showing no link in the data. Sticking your fingers in your ears closing your eyes and pretending that you haven't been shown the conclusive data won't make it go away.
How long shall we pretend the jury is out? The anti-vaxxers just move the goal post whenever confronted with real facts and data. Scientist and responsible journalists have no responsibility to provide a false illusion that there is any need for balanced reporting. The anti-vax community has failed to support their claims. It's the equivalent of giving balanced treatment to flat earthers or young-earth creationism. Not all points of view deserve serious consideration, particularly when they have NO DATA supporting them.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
i mean i love nbn but it isn't the new york times.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
Equally shameful is that all the focus on "its the vaccines!" keeps anyone from finding the real reason why autism is on the rise. I personally suspect environmental pollution (non-vaccination related), because there are tremendous numbers coming out of developing nations that do not have environmental policies in place, coupled with the rise of plastic toys in larger and larger numbers - the off-gassing of baby mattresses, for instance, is so bad that the manufacturers suggest opening the plastic they are wrapped in and airing them out for at least 72 hours before placing them in a closed nursery. The more non-scientists insist on focusing on anecdata, the less likely it is we can figure out what is really happening.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No
He never said that these parents don't love their children or pay attention to every milestone. Of course they do. But that doesn't mean they know much about autism before their child is diagnosed. If early signs of autism are subtle--less eye contact and fewer social smiles--then the parent might notice, be upset, but not interpret them as autism. Autism may only become unmistakable when there is an obvious speech delay--around 12-15 months old. (If you think it's odd that parents could miss that their child has autism, keep in mind that people with high functioning autism/Asperger's are sometimes not diagnosed professionally until adulthood. Severity plays a huge role).
The fact that parents, like the rest of us, assume that correlation equals causation does not mean they are bad parents or don't love their child. Can we please stop assuming that if parents really love their children, they must be perfect? Doesn't that assumption put a lot of stress on parents, who are just doing the best they can?
(BTW--the reason that "pro-vaxxers" focus on the MMR vaccine is because "anti-vaxxers" have always cited it as the cause of autism. They talk about mercury and thimerosal because many "anti-vaxxers" say it causes autism. It makes no sense to call people myopic or tell them they're missing the point when they are responding to your own criticisms. Sure, one can change the argument and say that some not-well-enough-defined-to-be-tested factor about vaccines--their quantity, their spacing, the animals used to make them, whatever--causes autism. But that constitutes moving the goal posts so as not to be out-argued.
All in all a good piece, except for the Jenny McCarthy bashing. I especially liked the mention of adult autism and Asperger's advocacy organizations, which are so often left out of the debate. Kudos.
Oh, and full disclosure, I have a sibling with high functioning autism.ReplyReport Are you sure? Yes / No